In August of 2017, I was awakened. The state I was in didn’t seem like spiritual slumber, but it absolutely was. For me, God was church on Sundays and maybe helping out a little at church. It was the 10% tithe sent to the church and the subsequent write off.
But, as God started to wake me up to the times, I got to my knees in prayer. I considered my relationship with Him, my eternity, the possibility of a pre-trib rapture, and the rapid acceleration toward utter global entropy.
I’m more of a realist than an optimist. Perhaps this is why I’m not invited to many parties.
God has given me much: Good health, great kids, safety, shelter, nice friends, wonderful neighbors, air conditioning, reliably hot water, sweet family members, an adorable red tractor, Amazon Prime, a comfortable bed with warm blankets, a garden…the list goes on.
But most importantly, He has given me salvation and the promise of eternity with Him.
It’s precisely that gratitude (and perhaps some guilt at not truly participating in the growth of His kingdom) that led me to a life-changing prayer.
I’m now laughing about this because I have a friend who does mission trips to Uganda. I’m pretty sure she stays somewhere with regular, hot showers and no bugs.
God answered my prayer in the most extraordinary way. He opened His word to me and I began passionately studying, reading, researching, and ultimately blogging.
I was on fire for God. I tried reaching out to friends, family, my husband, my kids… I spent hours on my knees at night praying for everything that was wrong in the world, one evening discovering that the smell of incense had permeated my clothing and my hair quite supernaturally, after a prayer during which I asked God to accept my prayers and repentance as incense unto His throne.
Everything changed.
One day, my husband said to me that he wanted “time apart” so he could have “more fun, spend more time in Switzerland, more money, less God, less responsibility.” What he really meant is that on his solo trip there a few weeks prior, he had hooked up with his old girlfriend and was about to bail on his family entirely. What he really meant is that when he asked me to sign a quit-claim deed on our home, he was already planning his exit. What he really meant is that he didn’t like the provision in our Family Trust that made my brother the trustee of the substantial inheritance I would probably receive from my mother in the event of my own death.
For the record, Mom insisted on that provision. I certainly would have been willing to share the money, but unlike any of our marital assets, I would have control over it. I would just have something of my own, to do with as I pleased in exactly the same way my ex spent as he pleased during 19.7 years of marriage.
My ex could not stand that idea; an ugly battle ensued.
He called the police on me twice, once to tell them I let our son drive the family car on our private property, and another time to tell them that he was afraid to come to the house to pick up his belongings because his life was in danger.
Absurd.
He reached out to as many family members as he could to tell them I was crazy, abusive, controlling, manipulative, selfish, and whatever else he could come up with. He did the same with close friends, former pastors, former employers, former co-workers, neighbors – you name it. He bore false witness like it wasn’t a sin.
My world was shaking around me as I felt attacked from all sides. I felt betrayed. I felt alone. And that is exactly the kind of situation that brings out the fight in me. Some crumble, I start swinging.
My approach was simple and I specifically warned him what it would be: Every time he reached out to someone and they told me about it, I’d take to social media and reveal a truth about him that I, the “good wife” had previously hidden. My revelations made people uncomfortable. But at least I stopped talking about God so much, right guys?
The epic war is now over. But there are casualties. If you ever want to test the depth of your relationships, have a prolonged crisis. You’ll be surprised how quickly you hear these things from those you turn to for support. You might hear the following phrases:
• Just move on and be happy.
• Don’t air your dirty laundry.
• Why don’t you just start dating again?
• I hope you can find some peace.
• Please, just stop talking about it.
Sorry folks, I now KNOW something that I didn’t know before, and I would gladly look like a loony if it means sharing this information saves someone else the pain. I know the topic makes some of you uncomfortable and you’ll block, avoid, or unfollow to avoid that discomfort.
Some of you react the same way when I talk about God. If it’s the rule “Never discuss religion or politics,” I can’t understand why some of you sure don’t mind ranting about politics so often.
As I dive headfirst into the possibilities that drive people away from the topic of God, hoping to make sense of why this topic is so controversial, here’s a list of reasons that I put together with the assistance of my younger son. Do any of these reasons resonate with you?
• Religion is deeply personal and nobody’s business but my own.
• Religion has nothing to do with right and wrong.
• It’s just going to end in an argument because we don’t believe the same thing.
• There are many world religions. Every one of them believes they’re right, and they can’t all be right.
• I’m a good person, and I don’t need an outdated rule book to tell me how to live.
• I’m afraid I’ll hurt your feelings because I think differently.
• All paths lead to Heaven/God/a happy and peaceful eternity, so why worry?
• Religion has always been about control of the population.
• You religious people believe in fairy tales. I believe in science.
• You sound like you’re recruiting for a cult.
Fundamentally, each of the above reasons (and maybe your reason, if it’s not on the above list) is that discussing God makes us uncomfortable. But why?
I have a theory.
God, for most of us, is synonymous with religion. Religion contains a defined set of core beliefs that become entwined with our personal identity, giving us a way to determine whether we’re “good” or “bad.” When someone challenges our ideas of who God is, ultimately they’re challenging our own understanding of whether we are a good person, or a bad person. And nobody likes that, right?
I can easily answer the question, “Do you believe you’re American?” I can point to my accent. I can prove to you where I was born, and who my parents are. I can pull up my Ancestry family tree and show you that my earliest ancestors came to this continent in 1625, and participated as Americans in the Revolutionary War. My confidence in my identity means that whatever question you ask about this topic, will be easy to answer. I won’t feel challenged by such a question, and I’ll probably be delighted to bend your ear for as long as you can stand it.
Someone asking me the question, “Do you believe in God?” is equally easy to answer, for me. I can point to significant experiences where He’s proven to me just how real He is. I can point to lines of scripture that foretell Jesus’ coming so that we could be redeemed by, and reconciled to, God. I can share with you Jesus’ genealogy on Earth. I can show you the intricacies of the Hebrew language and the historical records of Jesus.
All of this makes me confident in my response, and pretty ear-bendy.
I know lots of people who feel this way. But I also know lots of people who claim they believe in God, even in Jesus, and will avoid the topic any way they can. Here are some examples of each position:
• My in-laws were both Lutheran by claim and by baptism. They brought their boys up attending church, but the attendance dwindled to an occasional Christmas or Easter service. Anything more than that, to them, was a cult. My former father in law actually said to me, “I only believe in what I can see with my own eyes.” They never discussed God, outside of their concern about us attending church so often.
• My ex-husband claimed he came to Christ the same day I did, put off his baptism until I declared I was going to do it. Of course, he decided to get baptized the same day I did. Looking back, I now think it was all because he didn’t want to appear to be less Godly to our godly friends. If I hosted a Bible Study, he usually sat quietly and participated only when specifically called upon. He didn’t discuss God, and never touched a Bible.
• My family is almost entirely Catholic. We believed that baptism must take place very shortly after birth, or a baby would go to hell. We were taught that if we didn’t get married in a Catholic church, the union didn’t count to God. We went to church every Sunday, but never read the Bible.
• But my mom was a wonderfully devout woman of God, who discussed God daily, and upon her deathbed said she couldn’t wait to see Jesus. Still quite Catholic, she and I would discuss differing views and the only time she ever got upset was when I challenged her about communion wafers and the change to the 10 commandments brought about by the Catholic Church.
• I’m pretty sure my remaining brother is a CEO (Christmas and Easter Only) Catholic, but he and his wife put their kids through the Sacraments in order, just as has been done with us as kids. I think they went to a Catholic high school, too. But he has never engaged in a discussion with me about God.
• My sister, who converted to Baptist, discusses God with me frequently – even with Dementia. She had faith long before I did and bought me a KJV when I was twelve. As long as I can remember, she would praise God – and she had a lot of experiences that would nearly break a person.
• I was chatting with a family member the other day and in the texting session, the conversation ended abruptly as soon as I mentioned Rapture. He's even had an NDE.
• Another family member once told me any discussion about politics or religion are an instant end of connection on social media. I suspect many of my family members feel this way and no longer see my posts.
• A dear friend of mine grew up in the Mormon faith. She felt the Bishop interfered in her parent’s relationship and rejected that faith. She claimed she wanted her son to make his own mind up and was open to whatever religion he wanted to embrace. We invited him to attend one Sunday, following a sleepover, and she insisted on picking him up from our house early that morning to prevent him from attending.
Do you see the pattern? Who is willing to talk about God in the above examples? If one has firmly established faith in Jesus, they’re probably not going to be reluctant to talk about it with someone who has the same beliefs.
I suggest it’s the people who are NOT firmly established in their faith who refuse to discuss God, and that’s what scares me so much. If they aren’t open to discussion about God, where does that leave them? Do they feel like their identity is being challenged, and are in danger of becoming a “bad” person? How they address that challenge if they shut the conversation down immediately?
And what happens to them if they NEVER have those conversations?
My best friend is on the fence, I think. She was raised Catholic, and has some bad church history that drove her and her family away from church. But she’s so very smart and she’ll ask me questions about what I believe. And I’ll listen carefully to what she has to say about her own beliefs. I have hope.
If you are one of the people who refuse to discuss God, I’m begging you to figure out what’s behind your resistance. Don’t let church disappointments, aversion to rules, procrastination, family tradition, or the bad behavior of others get in your way. Wrestle with the question of God and salvation, because it’s an important question to answer.
Eyes up.
2 Peter 3: 3-11
3 This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,
You speak of a spiritual awakening in 2017, of being “on fire” for God, and of passionately studying Scripture. But in reading your words, I see a pattern that contradicts the humility and self-examination that should accompany true spiritual growth. You describe yourself as attacked, betrayed, and abandoned—but never once do you acknowledge your own role in any of it.
ReplyDeleteYour husband left, and you paint him as the villain. Your friends distanced themselves, and you assume it’s because they are uncomfortable with God. Your family doesn’t engage with you on spiritual matters, and you suggest it’s because they lack faith. But have you ever considered that your own actions, words, and attitude may be pushing people away?
You say that when your ex-husband slandered you, your response was to expose his secrets publicly, making people “uncomfortable” but feeling justified in your revenge. Does that sound like Christ? When Jesus was falsely accused, He did not retaliate (1 Peter 2:23). When He was betrayed, He did not seek vengeance. A woman truly walking with God does not respond to conflict by fighting fire with fire—she turns the other cheek and trusts God to be her defender (Matthew 5:39, Romans 12:19).
You also claim to be deeply grateful to God, yet your own words expose your selfishness. In your “life-changing” prayer, you told God you didn’t want to do missions in Africa because of bugs and cold showers. You wanted Him to use you, but only on your terms. That is not surrender; that is self-serving faith.
And let’s talk about your obsession with how others react to your religious discussions. You assume people avoid talking about God because they are spiritually weak or resistant. But based on your own words, it’s clear that your approach is not one of grace and love, but of pride and superiority. You claim to be following the Holy Spirit, yet your life is filled with division, broken relationships, and conflict. That is not the fruit of the Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23).
The real question you should be asking is not “Why won’t others talk about God?” but “Why do I push so many people away?” True faith does not create enemies at every turn. It does not justify bitterness or arrogance. It does not twist Scripture to serve one’s own sense of righteousness.
If you are truly seeking God, then it’s time to humble yourself, examine your own heart, and take responsibility for your actions. Otherwise, you are not following Christ—you are using His name to justify your own self-righteousness.
Hello - thank you for your candor. I have to assume that you're someone on my "Friend" list online, since my social media feed is the only place in which I've shared this blog post. If you'd like to reach out to me on Messenger , I'd love the chance to learn more and to express specific apologies.
DeleteI don't have a history of broken relationships. I have many long-term friends whom I trust, and who trust me. That said, in a short few years I've leaned the difference between "Friend" and "Friendly." The shift in attitude was absolutely necessary.
Regarding the essence of my post, about people not willing to talk about God, that is a general pattern among people and because I do have people who are willing to discuss it, I can't take personal responsibility for it. The examples I gave illustrate that.
So, since you're asking me for my contribution to my divorce, I'll lay it out for you, and will try to be brief because 20 years is a long time.
Richard Grannon suggests a "shared fantasy" keeps a person with a narcissist. I believed we were an "it" couple. Cool, fun, upwardly mobile...all the worldly measures of success. Believing that somehow our relationship was better satisfied my pride. My fault.
Also, when my former father in law fondled me, tried to sneak peeks on me in the shower, and poked his fingers into my breasts, and my ex laughed, I should have walked away. That was my fault.
When my ex convinced me his ex of 9 years was crazy, I should not have assumed he was truthful. Again, my fault for not paying attention.
When he said he didn't ever want to get married or have children, I should have believed him.
I should have insisted on financial transparency. $500k in sports cars over 20 years is silly. I didn't have the interest in arguing over money. My fault.
You're absolutely correct about bugs and hot showers being selfish. That said, not every ministry has to contain those things to be effective.
Counseling has helped me understand that I am completely co-dependent, which gives me a starting point from which to improve. I now call out bad behavior immediately, and that annoys people. I think that's a Jesus-like aspect that people forget about.
Your name-calling reminds me of someone I've had online discussions with before. It will be interesting to see who you are, Anonymous.
Thank you for posting this blog; i can testify to the same in my own life that not many people are open to discussing the topic of religion or politics or the many issues in our current society, ie: pro life/prochoice, abortion, alphabet identified people, couples living together outside of marriage. ..let alone who is Jesus to you? to spare readers from a long comment, i will say that those i run into, family, neighbors or strangers put up a 'wall' right away.; it's like they don't want another discussion or in their words, argument about any of these subjects; they have their opinions and let's just be happy in the moment and enjoy the time together, after all, we're family (or friends).
ReplyDeletei also read the comment above from 'anonymous' and find that interesting. i can testify that when i was a young Christian i pushed people away, i had such zeal for God; i have looked back over those many years and realized that i didn't really know or walk with Jesus and allow the Holy Spirit to work in me, i didn't know the true meaning of waiting on the Lord and i pushed forward with my own convictions and let's just say, i hurt many people along the way. i weep over that now, because i didn't know any better...wasn't taught to be in the Word of God on a daily basis and to listen and grow from the Holy Spirit as i read. instead, i read it quickly and out the door i flew to the day's commitments of work and life.
i really wasn't walking with the Lord as i now know how it can truly be.
years went along and i chose to leave my walk with Jesus and chose to try a different lifestyle; fun at first, like all sin is, but soon heartache and difficulties came-- i got hurt and i hurt others due to poor, wrong choices. Praise God he never gave up on me and He found me in a dry and weary place, picked me up and i surrendered my whole life to living for Jesus ...this time, not with half a heart, but a whole heart. this time i dove into the Word of God and couldn't put it down..i was consuming it ! fast forward to a few years later, my giving heart was deeply hurt because i learned something that i had never heard of my whole life...what a narcissist is and i was dealing with two of them over a six year period. ..then as i got out of them, another friend needed help and i gladly did so, needing to free myself from these others that hurt me...little did i know that after a year of helping this friend, she was using me as well ! but i wised up this time and pulled out before it got bad.
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ReplyDeletethe last three years have been a wake-up call for me, i've learned a lot about people, about myself and i, too, will admit that i have dealt with anger and wrong attitudes towards those who have hurt me deeply.
it takes time to uncurl those fingers and allow God to work in oneself, to place those hurts and people into his hands and allow Him to free you from that hurt/hatred and trust that He will deal with those who have hurt you.
each one of us has pain and issues, things to work on. none of us --even true believers in Jesus Christ are not perfect, we are born again, a new Creation in Christ, filled with the Holy Spirit, but we still carry this sin sick body - old nature of ours along and it's a daily battle within our members and that's why we need to be in the Word of God daily, to allow the Holy Spirit to work in us and to go forth with the whole armor of our God on to win the victory each day. without Jesus we can do nothing. i am looking soo forward to shedding this body of clay when Jesus calls us Up on that day, our Blessed Hope! then i can serve Him forever and ever and ever without this sinful flesh that gets in my way now.
i believe that people here in America don't want to deal with their guilt, shame or own up to their failures and they live in a box in their mind and don't want to change. they 'say' that everyone can believe what they want so long as they're happy. what they don't realize is that this belief has no substance, no proof, no answers to where one goes when they die, what happens to guilt, shame, wrong doings?? they somehow seem to believe that if they 'don't get caught' in this lifetime-- they've made it okay! but there is no peace in this stance or belief or fantasy as i call it. they have no peace and are always searching for something.... you can see it in their countenance in the worries and stresses of life. they choose to live a life of pride, of their way, not realizing that this life is not about them, but about the wonderful beauty of the Creator; they are blinded by the god of this world and are far from the living God and they avoid Him....man is still running and hiding from God since the fall of Adam & Eve.
part 3 of 3!
ReplyDeleteJesus Christ is God and He came into this world as a human baby, perfect God and perfect man, to die for the world's sins to bring us all into a right relationship with God. He gave of himself to die on that cross for you and me and he bore our sins & punishment so that we could be forgiven and set free from the bondage of sin & death eternal...as the Scriptures said. He was buried and on the third day he arose and is alive !! All who believe this in their hearts and confess with their mouth that Jesus is Lord are saved-- from eternal death and hell fire. those who reject him, who choose to not believe, are 'still' under the wrath of God (John chap 3 ) and that is why they --- those who don't want to talk of the Savior and push him away-- will be judged on that day that God has set . (Acts 17: 30-31)
one last thing... if one reads the Book of Romans chap 1 is dealing with all mankind, the unrighteousness of man and chap 2 is dealing with the self-righteousness of man and then the Jew. basically, we all are sinners in need of a right standing with God thru the free gift of God's grace thru his Son, Jesus Christ.
if one truly understands this as a believer, we would not judge each other, but pray for each other; if one truly understands this... i pray it will open your heart to sharing the love of God to others because they are lost and blinded and don't even realize the path they have chosen is leading them to hell and eventually, on Judgement Day that Great White Throne Judgement, they will stand before their Creator, whom they rejected and books will be opened, including the Book of Life, and they will be judged by what was written according to what they had done...and anyone whose name was not found in the Book of Life will be thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20: 11-15). that's eternity..forever and ever and ever and ever. let that sink in. this is why i implore others to turn to God and be saved..today!
please pray for the lost and share the love of God with them...believe on the Name of Jesus Christ and be saved! there is only One Savior, One Lord..Jesus the Messiah.